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kzaren wrote

tonks wrote

Hmm, not the least surprised you also believe in the myth of man-made global warming...oops, "climate change", the new PC term.

Something is certainly making it warmer!

Well don't blame it on man. The earth cools and warms in cycles, that's just a fact. Neither today's temperatures nor the rate of warming are particularly unusual compared to the historical record. Read some of Steve McIntyre's work - one of your own, a Canadian analyst who demonstrated how the original "holy grail" of global warming was a useless analysis.

You can blame the likes of Al Gore for perpetrating this hoax simply to line their pockets. For pete's sake, follow the money....that alone tells you something stinks big time.

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Speaking of "Fakes", do you think the latest "Camping Letter" found on "Latter_Rain" is authentic or a fake??

Probably true. Wasn't it said to be in their monthly solicitation letter? Sounds like the type of "apology" FR would make..."yes, we were wrong but look how much good our "mistake" is responsible for". They're acting like no one ever heard of the Bible before they proclaimed May 21 "around the world". They're all still a bunch of jerks only looking out for their best interests...money.

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tonks, I would feel sorry for you except for the fact that you represent the stupidity that is destroying my country.

BTW, we pay taxes MOSTLY for things we don't like OR SHOULDN"T BE REQUIRED TO pay. Because WE LET THEM TAKE IT. They also don't spend it efficiently or prudently which is why we must spend half of our working lives working just to pay the taxes before we start making money to use to eat and drive cars. Where? To work, of course! Stop being a retard.

This article is someone's opinion about why Evangelicals dislike Paul. It is a question that I've asked myself many times. My own answer is that they are like tonks and they just don't get it. I suppose it can't be expected that the herd would stop being a herd. They are, after all, the herd. This guy takes a more direct approach which, finally, isn't too far from the naked truth.

Evangelicals like to quote a biblical text that God favors those who favor the Jews. However, for them they mean only Jews who make wars and contribute to chaos in the Middle East. Jewish peacemakers are cursed in their view. No tears were shed for Yitzak Rabin who negotiated peace with the Arabs until Israeli fanatics killed him. Indeed Pat Robertson said that Rabin was killed because he was trying to thwart God's plans.

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CNN's Michigan exit poll had a nugget of information that caught my eye: Republican voters who "strongly supported" the Tea Party favored Rick Santorum -- 45 percent of that subgroup cast a ballot for the former Pennsylvania senator. Mitt Romney came in second place, winning 37 percent of strong Tea Party supporters, Newt Gingrich won 11 percent of their vote, and Ron Paul finished last with 6 percent.

These results underscore the chasm that separates what Tea Partiers say they care about and their revealed preferences. Visit some of the Web sites for regional Tea Party-affiliated groups in the state. The Southwest Michigan Patriots are typical. The "core principles" they list: Limited government, separation of powers, protection of individual rights, fiscal responsibility and transparency, free trade and commerce, and taxes. Or look at the core principles listed by the Tea Party of West Michigan:

1. To preserve the economic future for our children.
2. To work for a return to the principles of our governing constitution.
3. To demand limited government.
4. To promote the free market that made our country the leader of the world.
5. To give support for individual rights, and property rights.
6. To provide a platform for giving like-minded people a voice.

And the voters who say they support these principles have chosen, as their preferred 2012 nominee, Rick Santorum, the social conservative who says he voted contrary to his beliefs in order to be a "team player" during the big-spending, federal-government-expanding Bush Administration. Their least favorite is Ron Paul, the most consistent champion of all the issues they say that they care about most. It's almost a joke. If they prefer an interventionist foreign policy or don't think there's any chance for Paul to beat President Obama, fine: no one is obligated to vote for a principled advocate of small government. But if they wind up supporting Santorum what's the point of having a Tea Party at all?

As if to underscore the incoherence of the Republican Party these days, Santorum won not only the voters who most strongly supported the Tea Party -- he also won the voters that most strongly oppose it:

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/02/the-most-fervent-tea-partiers-in-michigan-backed-santorum/253769/

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Like most groups, the Tea Party is not monolithic. I'm sure some members were turned off by Santorum's social conservatism.

However, I think he was simply trying to get across that Obama should not be "ordering" churches, schools or insurance companies to supply free birth control.

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One reason why Paul skipped the Florida primary (and other large primary states) in favor of caucus states.

http://ronpaulnews.net/2012/03/watch-diebold-hacking-in-action.html

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...Clarke Co. Georgia held their county meeting today and it was overwhelmingly attended by Paul supporters. After the delegates were listed (of which my name was excluded) a man in the front row quickly motioned for the nominations to stand and another woman second the vote. Many were calling for dissension, but they were ignored by the chairman and he announced the motion was passed and adjourned the meeting. All of this is documented on film.(digital I suppose) So much for getting involved. They also skipped the all opposed say "nay" part, but who's keeping tabs anyway?...

...In Iowa. Mixed news out of my county. We had our county GOP convention today. We were slated to take almost all the delegates. They changed the rules on us, so instead we took a proportional amount. (we fought, but to no avail)...

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There are so many reports of corrupted caucuses that I couldn't possibly post them all or even view them all. Here is one of the latest.

http://lorienjohnson.com/2012/03/breaking-election-fraud-in-st-charles-co-missouri-caucus/

And that is in addition to the issue of vote fraud:

http://www.dailypaul.com/221362/ron-paul-wants-us-to-pursue-election-fraud

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=EUS1m5MSt9k

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tonks, I would feel sorry for you except for the fact that you represent the stupidity that is destroying my country.

Well, at least "my" country is safe from the likes of Ron Paul and his fanatical base.

Since they can't win, they'll play childish, immature games by picking-up their marbles and going home.....either stay at home licking their wounds on election day or vote for another inconsequential candidate. And you call us stupid? Rolling Eyes

Either way, Ron Paul isolates his supporters and renders them politcally ineffectual. I guess we should be grateful for that!

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tonks, some day you'll figure it all out. You and most everybody else. By that time it will be too late and you'll want to pretend you weren't as stupid "back then" as you really are right now.

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Nah, the only "stupid" ones are those who have made themselves irrelevant and inconsequential.

Save us from the self-perceived elite intelligensia as they spout their condescending and patronizing views of everyone who disagrees with them.

Well, at least then they pick-up their marbles and go home so I guess it's a trade-off.

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tonks, you don't know what you are talking about. Paul still has his marbles, which is more that can be said for romney supporters. You should try to evolve your thinking somewhat; it is a bit arcane. Open your eyes. Being a Paul supporter does not make one irrelevant. Quite the contrary. Try making that "argument" to all of the young people going to his rallies. I won't support romney because I don't want him to be President. It isn't a right left dichotomy like you characterize it. People who support Paul aren't Old Guard Republicans. They are the New Guard. They have beliefs. They have conviction. You don't understand that, so you say silly things about marbles and such. If Paul can't "win" the GOP nod it is because the party (and its member drones) is rife with stupidity and cronyism. Paul is winning his Campaign for Liberty, which is much larger and more significant than one election cycle. Paul supporters will change the GOP or have nothing to do with it, because it is corrupt and it is not conservative in the sense of being in favor of constitutional and limited government. If they GOP doesn't want Paul then they are going to get Obama, just like four years ago. Slow learners.

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tonks, you don't know what you are talking about. Paul still has his marbles, which is more that can be said for romney supporters.

If you're going to respond, why not pay more attention...I never said or even intimated that Paul didn't have all his marbles.

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You should try to evolve your thinking somewhat; it is a bit arcane. Open your eyes. Being a Paul supporter does not make one irrelevant.

Actually, this is quite "eye-opening". You read what you want rather than what is actually written. It's not being a Ron Paul supporter per se that makes you irrelevant, you're irrelevant because if you can't have your way you'll just reject the entire democratic system.

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Quite the contrary. Try making that "argument" to all of the young people going to his rallies.

Well, if they "listen" the way you read, they wouldn't understand the actual argument presented either.

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I won't support romney because I don't want him to be President. It isn't a right left dichotomy like you characterize it.

Where did I characterize the supporters of Paul as "left"?....I didn't. Again, you read only what you want, not what's actually written. Perhaps that accounts for your support of Paul...you read into him what you want - not what's really there.

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People who support Paul aren't Old Guard Republicans. They are the New Guard. They have beliefs. They have conviction.

Yep, figures....only "you" have beliefs and convictions....no one else. Do you realize how absurd that sounds?

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You don't understand that, so you say silly things about marbles and such.

Nothing "silly" about saying you're picking up all your marbles and going home....that's what kids do when they can't have their own way. This is precisely what you're doing by not voting or voting for another irrelevant candidate. Do you really need to have the "marble" idiom explained to you?

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If they GOP doesn't want Paul then they are going to get Obama, just like four years ago. Slow learners.

Oops....this calls for another idiom...."you're cutting your nose off to spite your face".....quite a penchant you have for self-destruction.

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